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Main Street Report Q4 Highlights - Business Chat In this post we include a transcript from our February 11th Business Chat about the highlights in the most recent Main Street Report for Q4, 2020. We were joined by Cristian DeRitis, Deputy Chief Economist from Moody's Analytics, and Brodie Oldham, Senior Director of Analytics for Experian. [Gary]: Welcome to Business Chat. We're going to be talking about small business credit today—small business credit trends for Q4 with the release of the Experian Moody's Analytics Main Street Report. We've got the Deputy Chief Economist of Moody's Analytics, Christian DeRitis with us. Good morning, Christian. [Cristian]: Hi, good morning [Gary]: Good morning. [Gary]: And joining Christian is Brodie Oldham. He's a Senior Director of Analytics here at Experian. [Brodie]: Good morning. [Gary]: So glad you guys could join us today. So we're going to be taking a, look at the the highlights from the Experian Moody's Analytics Main Street Report just released. The report had three real standout items for me - the increase in hiring during Q4 that would be normally be expected. Delinquency rates declining to 1.21% and taxes as a main concern. We're showing that small businesses did add employees in Q4. It looks like those jobs appear to be funded primarily through credit. And businesses did keep the outstanding balances in check in Q4 with that moderate delinquency edging down to 1.21%, this time last year, it was around 1.60%. So, you know, there some good things there in the report, it seems kind of counter-intuitive, you know, when you read the headlines, but one of the things that also is starting to kind of resurge as a concern among business owners are taxes related to maybe a new administration and having things taking a different direction in terms of taxation. S. The thing that is probably on the minds of most small business owners and the nation really would be stimulus and getting some help for business owners. Biden has proposed a $1.9 trillion relief package. So Christian, I wanted to get your thoughts on the package, and if you could maybe cover some of the high points on it and what your thoughts are. [Cristian]: Yeah, sure. So they, you know, the $1.9 trillion package is an extension, if you will, of the cares act that we had last year or two, $2.4 trillion package, plus the additional stimulus that was passed at the end of December, really the purpose of those packages to my mind, it was largely preservation, right? We had households, small businesses that were really struggling under the weight of the pandemic and the associated closures. And so that assistance was really the lifeline to keep household finances in intact to some degree and to, and to preserve small businesses. Right? Last thing we wanted is to have millions of businesses failing. And then even when we get to the recovery stage, we don't have any, any of that, uh, that foundation to build off of the next, stimulus here. The 1.9 trillion that's been proposed, I think this package or some version of it is really intended to be stimulative to go to the next level where we have the vaccines kicking in the economy is recovering. You have consumers of being a little bit more positive and hopeful of the future here. And this package to me, is really designed to jumpstart some of the activity to ensure that we build some momentum and keep going in particular for small businesses. We have extension of the PPP program. That's the Paycheck Protection Program, this time around monies allocated are designed to be much more focused on the truly smallest businesses, many of which have been struggling and have few other options when it comes to credit. And so, I view that certainly as a positive as we, again, look forward to the future here, in terms of consumers coming back in leisure hospitality spending, coming back as people start to feel more comfortable after the vaccination efforts take hold. And so this, I, I do believe that this stimulus is certainly beneficial to ensure that we, we make it to that a more positive growth environment towards the end of the year, say the third or fourth quarter, I don't know that the full $1.9 trillion package will actually be passed. There's certainly a lot of debate around it, but I think some version of it that perhaps a scale-down package, maybe something closer to a trillion dollars will be passing that that certainly will be helpful for households and small businesses alike. [Gary]: Very good. Alright. Turning to you Brodie. One of the things that we saw again in the report would be credit and use of credit and businesses had kind of their appetite for credit in the Q4 timeframe had kind of declined. Did you have a comment on that? [Brodie]: I do, and, you know, it is a trend that we've been seeing through the summer. That pull back when we look at small businesses, just prior to the pandemic, what we saw them do is open up credit, looking for some longer term credit facilities that they could, uh, reach into and create some cushion for them as they looked forward and saw the pandemic growing, knowing that we would be entering some type of recessionary period. They knew that lenders would tighten up criteria as they went forward. And lenders did turn on their recessionary underwriting programs toward the beginning of last summer. And that really created a gap there for funding for small businesses and for their survival. Like Christian spoke to about stimulus, came in and provided some of that low cost alternative funding that small businesses might have gotten otherwise from banks or credit unions Fintechs across the marketplace. And so when we looked at that stimulus coming out, it really added or exacerbated that pull back that we saw of small businesses reaching out for this type of credit. Now we had the first round of stimulus that went really to all businesses, across the spectrum. When we look at the second poll, that's going to come out the second round of stimulus, that'll be part of the market what we're going to see is, and we're seeing already, a large number of those that were in the first round of PPP loans are entering the second round up to 93%. We've seen eighties, seventies across some of our different lenders. You know, at the second round is going to require some additional look at how a business's performance was through the third and fourth quarter if they have losses and, you know, those that picked it up in the first round, not all really needed it. And they took it from the perspective of we're going to take in the money. We're going to pay down some of our loans. We're going to,  create some additional utilization space for us. And we saw some of that across the trends. And we'll talk about some of that in the upcoming Quarterly Business Credit Review. But what we're going to see as we go forward, is that, you know, as the pandemic lightens a bit, we see the vaccines take hold. We're going to see that some of the collections and foreclosure activity is going to slow a bit. We're going to see, you know, we're going to see those moratoriums come to an end. What that's going to create is a need for,  some additional credit. And some of that's going to be beyond what will be provided in the stimulus packages. And so, as we go forward, as the market opens up, we see more foot traffic, businesses are going to go from that survival feel, into more of a future investment type of a growth feel. And in that they're going to be looking for banks and credit unions and fintechs and across the marketplace to again, look for opportunities to pick up some additional funding as we go forward. [Gary]: Very good. So gentlemen, you know, we're in Q1 right now, we should be seeing data for that coming in the early part of April, any thoughts on how this is going to break in terms of credit performance, business performance, if I guess it all depends on stimulus right now, and we've got what's happening in Texas and other things that are complicating things, any thoughts to, to close with? [Cristian]: Yeah. So from my perspective, I think it's still going to be a Rocky few months here. Assuming that stimulus does kick in and we continued to provide support to households and small businesses, I would expect the credit performance actually is going to remain fairly strong in the short term. And it's really, once we move beyond and remove those supports in the third, fourth quarter, we're going to have some counteracting forces, we'll have a stronger economy, so growth and labor market's coming back. Revenues are rising at a, at businesses. On the other hand, those supports are going away. There's a threat of somewhat higher interest rates. And so that I do expect to see a wave of bankruptcies and some additional delinquencies rising. But I don't, I don't expect that we're going to see a, a substantial shock. I think it's some more return to normality, the delinquencies and default rates are perhaps artificially suppressed for now. And they'll just gradually rise back to more normal level, but I don't know, Brodie, maybe you have a different opinion? [Brodie]: No, I think you're right on Christian. I think what we'll also see is you know, more new businesses entering the market. We saw a lot of closures that came toward the end of last year. We're going to see more reopenings, but those new businesses that are opening are going to have a hard time building credit as we come forward. They're not going to have that credit history that some of these that closed did. We'll see them start to build that credit history. We're going to see lenders some use different tools to differentiate credit risk for some of these new businesses and remarket. So we'll see originations begin to rise. We'll see some of that underwriting criteria loosen even continue to loosen into the first and second quarter. So it's going to give more opportunity for small businesses. Certainly as we get into the summertime, as, you know, foot traffic is going to increase, we're really going to be in a better place as a country. So I think we're going to really have an opportunity for businesses again, to go from that survival mode into what's my future, going to look like how do I invest to grow from here? [Gary]: Very good. Well, we'll be getting together again on March 16th. We're going to be doing more of a deep dive on the Experian Moody's Analytics Main Street Report, and that'll be the report for the Q4, Derek Grunfelder-McCrank is going to be joining us. That's Christian's colleague. And so I will see you gentlemen again on the 16th. And folks, if you would like to attend a webinar, there's a link here in this slide and also I will leave a link in the description for this video and a link to the report. If you haven't got your copy, please sign up. We'd love to get that report out there, have more people read it. Thanks very much for coming to Business Chat today. Thank you.

Published: February 23, 2021 by Gary Stockton

  Experian and Moody's Analytics have just released the Q4 2020 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape and offers commentary on business credit trends and what they mean for lenders and small businesses.  Small businesses increased hiring during the holiday season, offsetting some of the pandemic's job losses. Many of these jobs were funded by credit while companies paid down outstanding debt. This trend of paying down debt caused moderately delinquent balances to decline to 1.21 percent from 1.60 percent during the same time last year. There has yet to be a decisive upturn in delinquency and bankruptcy, as would be expected following the pandemic lockdowns of the previous year. With a change in administration, small businesses are feeling concerned about taxes, as noted in recent NFIB surveys. But these growing concerns did not dampen borrowing or hiring during the fourth quarter. Business Chat Live Watch the replay of our interview with Cristian DeRitis from Moody's Analytics and Brodie Oldham. Join us for the Q4 Quarterly Business Credit Review You can also save your seat for our upcoming Quarterly Business Credit Review webinar for a deep dive on the latest report. Date: Tuesday, March 16th, 2021 Time: 10 a.m. (Pacific) | 1:00 p.m. (Eastern) Save My Seat

Published: February 9, 2021 by Gary Stockton

Experian and Moody's Analytics have just released the Q3 2020 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as offer... Experian and Moody's Analytics have just released the Q3 2020 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as offer commentary on business credit trends and what they mean for lenders and small businesses. In a fight for survival, small businesses have turned to layoffs and borrowing as they attempt to reach the other side of COVID-19. The increased borrowing is helping to mask rising late-stage delinquencies and bankruptcy. But these tactics can only mask weakness for so long. With another round of government stimulus unlikely to arrive before year's end, small businesses will need to borrow for survival again. While we did see some jobs come back in Q3, small business payrolls have shrunk by more than 2 million from this time last year. The hardest hit are those businesses with 1-19 and 20-49 employees; both of these groups saw payrolls shrink by 1 million employees. The 31-90 days past due (DPD) delinquency rate on small business credit plunged to 1.25 percent in the third quarter. This ended the streak of increasing delinquency we had observed for the last year. However, this is likely to be short-lived, as the US appears to have entered a new phase of the COVID-19 pandemic with cases again on the rise. Commercial and Industrial loans continued to run hot. C&I numbers are a lagging indicator, so the latest numbers reflect the second quarter. At that time new C&I lending was 21 percent higher than in the same period a year ago. If you would like to get the full analysis of the data behind the latest Main Street Report, join us for the Quarterly Business Credit Review webinar.  

Published: November 19, 2020 by Gary Stockton

Experian and Moody's Analytics have just released the Q2 2020 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as offer commentary on business credit trends, and what they mean for lenders and small-businesses.  Small businesses have turned to borrowing to survive periods of prolonged slumping sales, in many cases from government programs offering loan forgiveness. This increased borrowing has masked rising delinquent balances, but such a solution is a short-term fix. To keep their credit current, small businesses will need to find ways to generate revenue. Defaults are expected to rise in coming quarters as forbearance programs expire and as customers are likely to change their priorities in the wake of COVID-19. In Q2, moderate delinquency, defined as 31-90 days past due, rose to 1.66 percent from 1.61 percent, marking the fourth consecutive quarter of increasing delinquency, and the first year-over-year increase since this time last year. The closure of many state and local economies in April and the first half of May left many businesses facing severe revenue shortfalls in the second quarter. This environment has resulted in businesses listing poor sales as the second most important problem facing small businesses, according to the NFIB. If you would like to get the full analysis of the data behind the latest Main Street Report, presented by leading economists from Moody's Analytics and Experian, watch the Quarterly Business Credit Review webinar.

Published: August 21, 2020 by Gary Stockton

Experian and Moody's Analytics have just released the Q1 2020 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as offer commentary on business credit trends, and what they mean for lenders and small-businesses. After just one quarter, there’s no doubt the theme of 2020 is the pandemic, Covid-19. Unrelated to the pandemic, and subsequent shuttering of a swath of economies across the world, delinquencies rose in the first quarter. This was occurring as businesses reduced their borrowing. Lower borrowing will not have lasted long though, as government efforts to aid small business have taken the form of SBA lending. In Q1, the slowing of businesses pursuing credit pushed moderately delinquent balances up to 1.61 percent from 1.60 percent in the fourth quarter of 2019. # DPD Q1 19 Q4 19 Q1 20 Moderately delinquent 31–90 1.74% 1.60% 1.61% Severely delinquent 91+ 3.35% 2.29% 2.68% Bankruptcy 0.16% 0.16% 0.16% The bankruptcy rate was essentially flat in the first quarter, rising to 16.3 basis points from 16.1 in Q4. But the rate increased as fewer firms were reported as having active credit balances. The Federal Reserve’s Senior Loan Officer Survey indicates lenders are seeing higher demand than usual for Commercial & Industrial loans. This indicates the beginning of increasing loan demand this year, as small firms look to borrow to ride out lower consumer demand and remain in business. Watch the Quarterly Business Credit Review Get the full analysis of the data behind the Main Street Report by watching the experts from Experian and Moody’s in the Quarterly Business Credit Review.

Published: May 18, 2020 by Gary Stockton

  Experian and Moody’s Analytics have just released the Q2 2019 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as providing commentary on what certain trends mean for lenders and small businesses. Q2 Highlights In spite of business confidence in the second quarter, shaken by talk of trade war escalation, small businesses got a helping hand from seasonal factors that combined to push delinquency rates down. Delinquency rates for businesses with fewer than 100 employees fell in the second quarter, decreasing the 31–90 days past due rate from 1.74 percent to 1.64 percent for the quarter. But agriculture’s problems continued as weather and trade conditions continued to weigh on small farms. These factors won’t be as helpful in the third quarter, so fundamentals or confidence will need to improve to propel performance and growth forward. Bankruptcies ticked up ever so slightly again in the second quarter coming in at over 16 basis points. The most recent data available, from Q4 2018, indicates an establishment growth rate of 2.3%. Enough of these new businesses will seek credit to ensure that, combined with existing borrowers, balances look set to grow for some time.   Overall, small businesses continue to display little to no signs of broad-based weakness. What weakness exists is fairly well confined at either the regional or industry level, and the solid performance that has been the norm for the last several quarters looks set to continue. Watch Webinar Recording Experian and Moody's Analytics go in-depth on the Q2 2019 Main Street Report in the below webinar.

Published: August 6, 2019 by Gary Stockton

Experian and Moody’s Analytics have just released the Q1 2019 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as providing commentary on what certain trends mean for lenders and small businesses. In Q1 U.S. small businesses brushed off a government shutdown as stock markets recovered and income gains remained steady. Delinquency rates remained mostly stable, with pockets of weakness spread out among regions and industries, notably agriculture in the Great Lakes and manufacturing in the Southwest. Small firms seem to have simply shrugged off the headwinds of the first quarter and kept on with business as usual. Despite a fresh escalation in trade tensions,  the year is starting off well with positive news coming from the areas presenting risks to the outlook. A dovish stance on interest rates from the Federal Reserve and room to grow in our housing market — 2019 is off to a strong start. Watch Webinar Recording -  Q1 2019 Quarterly Business Credit Review Listen to the experts from Experian and Moody's Analytics go in-depth on insights revealed in the Q1 2019 Experian/Moody's Analytics Main Street Report.  

Published: May 14, 2019 by Gary Stockton

Experian has released the Experian/Moody's Analytics Main Street Report for Q4 2018. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as providing commentary around what certain trends mean for credit grantors and the small-business community. Bucket 17Q4 18Q3 18Q4 Moderately Delinquent 31-90 1.68% 1.63% 1.68% Severely Delinquent 91+ 4.00% 3.40% 3.49% Bankruptcy BKC 0.16% 0.16% 0.16% The fourth quarter capped a second year of solid performance and growth for small-business credit, but there are signs that the period of moderation experienced during the past two years is over. Since the government shutdown has the potential to throw small-business lending a curve ball in the first half of 2019, the outlook for small-business credit is neutral. Conditions were positive in the fourth quarter, but this may not last long. Delinquency rates remained mostly stable, with pockets of weakness spread out among regions and industries, notably construction in the Plains. In addition to the 35-day shutdown, rising interest rates, destabilizing trade policy and slowing home-price growth are potential trouble sources that are already starting to impact some regions.  

Published: February 12, 2019 by Gary Stockton

Today Experian and Moody's Analytics released the Q3 2018 Main Street Report. The report brings deep insight into the overall financial well-being of the small-business landscape, as well as providing commentary around what certain trends mean for credit grantors and the small-business community.  For Q3 2018, the overall outlook for small-business credit is positive, but some industries such as construction have a negative outlook. Delinquency rates stable for now Delinquency rates are stable around their current levels, but this could change quickly if risks mount for certain industries.  Continuing strength in the economy should keep small-business credit performance in check through the fourth quarter and early next year. Rising interest rates, destabilizing trade policy and slowing home-price growth are potential sources of trouble that are already starting to impact some regions. To bring insight to these Q3 business credit findings, Experian and Moody's Analytics will be presenting the Quarterly Business Credit Review for Q3 2018 on Tuesday, December 11th 10:00 a.m. (Pacific) 1:00 p.m. (Eastern).  Read the report and bring your questions, we will be opening up the session for live Q&A as we dig into the numbers and the outlook for Q4 2018. We hope to see you there. Presenters:  Gavin Harding Derrek G. McCrank Cristian deRitis      

Published: November 13, 2018 by Gary Stockton

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