#ExperianStories: Patty Guevarra

After a particularly rough patch with her mental health, Patty accumulated $16,000 of consumer debt. In this episode of #ExperianStories, she shares her journey of overcoming financial anxiety and debt shame. Listen to her story in both English and Tagalog or read the full transcripts below.

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English Transcript:

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My name is Patty, I am an employee at Experian,

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and this is my credit story.

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I am a first generation Filipino American raised by a single immigrant mother,

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and I was taught to be very frugal and smart

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with my money growing up, almost to a fault.

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By the time I turned 18 and had gotten my first job,

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I was experiencing anxiety over nearly every purchase that I was making.

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Now, I understand that all the lessons

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that my mom taught me was because she wanted me to have

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a better and easier life and that I wouldn’t

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have to experience the same hardships that she did as a struggling immigrant.

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At 20 years old, I entered a pretty severe depressive episode

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that greatly affected my physical, mental and financial health.

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I was working a job that didn’t pay a livable wage.

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I was helping my mom with her bills on top of my own,

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and I just wasn’t coping with my issues in a healthy manner.

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So I got into $16,000

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of consumer debt, unfortunately. Because I knew I was raised to know better,

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I became very ashamed with myself.

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I took on all my problems by myself, and I didn’t tell anyone what I was going through.

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I wasn’t about to enjoy my life because of my situation.

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So I just became more and more depressed, and it felt like this endless cycle,

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and it really felt like I was never going to escape it.

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Fast forward, and I finally got a job that allowed me the privilege

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to commit myself to aggressively paying down my consumer debt

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but no matter how much I paid, it didn’t feel like my debt was going down.

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So it

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felt like nothing was happening and I was stuck

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and I felt miserable and helpless,

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and it took me feeling this way to finally reach out to my mom for help.

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And she surprised me.

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She wasn’t disappointed.

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She didn’t shame me, and we worked together to find a solution.

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And it turns out that the interest rate on that credit card was obscene.

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So all of my payments were going to the interest and not my principal amount.

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And it occurred to me that if I had missed something

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as simple as interest rates, what else was I missing?

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What else should I know that I was never taught?

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I focused on educating myself.

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So I read a lot of articles, I read books, I listened to podcasts,

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I watched documentaries, and I learned so many things

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that I 100% believed I should have been taught formally in school.

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Focusing on my

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financial health became a really large priority of mine

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and after a full year of getting my finances in order

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and educating myself along the way, I was able to pay my entire debt.

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And guess what?

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I am still debt-free to this day.

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This time in my life affected my financial health

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for years to come because of all the lessons I learned.

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I never again got myself into a debt that I couldn’t get out of,

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and I now have an amazing credit score that really affords me the opportunity

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to achieve the goals that I never thought that I was going to achieve,

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especially back when I was 20 years old.

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And now I’m proud to work for a company that devotes itself

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to teaching consumers how to take control of their financial health too.

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Definitely feels like a full circle moment.

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The crazy thing about all of this is that this story used to make me feel

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so ashamed, and I never thought that I would want to share this

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with anybody, let alone a bunch of strangers on the internet. But

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I now understand it

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takes a lot of grace and patience to accept your mistakes

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and to correct them because we will be making them.

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It’s inevitable,

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but I wholeheartedly believe that we will always find a way to bounce back.

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My biggest takeaway from this experience is that financial education

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is not merely a large enough priority, especially in minority communities.

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I think we are so focused on simply surviving

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and keeping our head above the water that it feels impossible to thrive

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sometimes. There’s a problem with access to resources, tools

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and education in these communities, and I feel like once we have those,

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the barriers that we can tear down

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to financial access are limitless,

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and my hope is that the story makes you feel like this is possible for you too.

Tagalog Transcript:

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Ako si Patty, empleyado ako sa Experian,

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at ito ang kasaysayan ko sa utang.

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Unang henerasyon akong Fil-Am na pinalaki ng solong imigranteng ina,

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at tinuruan akong maging kuripot at matalino

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sa pera sa paglaki ko nang halos sobra na.

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Noong maging 18 na ako at nakuha ko ang una kong trabaho,

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nakaramdam ako ng pagkabalisa sa halos bawat pagbili na ginagawa ko.

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Ngayon ko naiintindihan na lahat ng mga payo at aral

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na binibigay sakin ng aking mommy ay dahil gusto nya na mas maging

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maganda ay madali ang buhay ko at hindi ko

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maranasan yung hirap nya as a struggling immigrant.

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Sa edad na 20, napasok ako sa medyo mahirap na yugto na lubhang

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nakaapekto sa aking kalusugang pisikal, mental at pananalapi.

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Nagtatrabaho ako ng trabahong hindi nakabubuhay ang sahod.

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Tinutulungan ko si mama sa kanyang mga bayarin bukod sa akin,

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at di ko kinakaya ang mga suliranin sa malusog na paraan.

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Kaya napasok ako sa $16,000

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na utang ng konsumer. Dahil alam ko na pinalaki akong na

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tama nahiya ako sa sarili ko.

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Sinarili ko ng problema ko, at akong sinibihan kahit kanino ito.

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Di ko ma-enjoy ang buhay ko dahil sa ganitong situation

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Kaya mas lalo lang akong nanlumo, at ang walang dulo na ikot na ito,

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sa pakiramdam ay parang hinding-hindi ko ito matatakasan.

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Sa wakas ay nagkatrabaho ako ng nagbigay sa akin ng pribilehiyo

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na italaga ang sarili ko na agresibo sa pagbayad ng utang ko na konsumer

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pero kahit anong bayad ko, parang hindi bumababa ang utang ko.

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Kaya parang

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walang nangyayari sa pakiramdam at naipit ako at pakiramdam ay

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kahabag-habag ako at walang magawa,

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at humantong ako na magpasaklolo sa ina ko para sa tulong.

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At ginulat niya ako.

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Hindi siya nabigo.

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Hindi niya ako pinahiya, nagtulungan kami para magkasolusyon.

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At ang rate ng interes sa credit card na iyon ay labis.

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Kaya lahat ng aking mga bayad ay sa interes lang at hindi sa halaga.

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At naisip ko na kung may makaligtaan ako

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na kahit mga rate ng interes, ano pa ang kulang sa akin?

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Ano pa ang dapat kong malaman na hindi itinuro sa akin?

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Nag-focus ako sa pagaral ko.

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Kaya nagbasa ako ng mga artikulo, ng mga libro, nakinig ng podcast,

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nanood ng mga dokumentaryo, at napakarami kong natutunan

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na 100% akong naniniwala na itinuro dapat sa paaralan.

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Ang pagtuon sa aking

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pinansiyal na kalusugan ay naging napakalaking prayoridad ko

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at pagkatapos ng isang buong taon ng pag-ayos sa aking pananalapi

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at sariling pag-aaral, nabayad ko ang buong utang ko.

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At hulaan mo?

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Debt-free pa hangang ngayon.

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Ang panahong ito ng buhay ko ay nakaapekto sa aking pananalapi

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sa maraming taon dahil sa lahat ng aral na natutunan ko.

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Di na ako muling nabaon sa utang na di ako makaalis,

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at kahanga-hanga ang credit score ko na nagbibigay ng oportunidad

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upang makamit ko ang mga layunin na hindi ko naisip na makakamit ko,

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lalo na noong edad 20 pa lang ako.

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At ipinagmamalaki kong magtrabaho sa kumpanyang nakatuon sa pagturo

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sa mga konsumer na kontrolin rin ang kalusugan nila sa pananalapi.

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Talagang parang isang ganap na sandali.

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Ang nakakamangha sa lahat ng ito ay nahihiya ako noon sa kwentong ito,

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at hindi ko naisip na nais kong ibahagi ito

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sa kahit sino, lalo na sa mga estranghero sa internet. Pero

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naiintindihan ko ngayong kailangan

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ng maraming biyaya at pasensya upang matanggap ang iyong mga mali

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at maitama ang mga ito dahil magagawa natin ang mga ito.

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Hindi ito maiiwasan, pero

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ganap akong naniniwalang lagi tayong makakahanap ng paraan na makabawi.

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Ang pinakamalaking aral dito ay di lang malaking sapat na prayoridad

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ang edukasyon sa pananalapi, lalo na sa komunidad ng minorya.

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Tingin ko, masyado tayong nakatutok sa simpleng pagraos lang

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at pagpapanatiling nakaangat ang ulo na parang imposibleng umunlad.

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Minsan, may problema sa pag-access sa mga mapagkukunan, kasangkapan

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at edukasyon sa komunidad na ito, at tila kapag mayroon na tayo nito,

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ang hadlang na maaari nating masira

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sa akses sa pananalapi ay walang

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limitasyon, at inaasahan kong magawa ng kwento na posible rin ito sa iyo.

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